nothing. Really not.
Preferring the GR86 over the new Subaru BRZ or the BRZ over the Toyota GR86 is like preferring a Coke versus Pepsi. They are not exactly alike, and I know some people are hard pressed to ask for one and not the other. but they are not Therefore different in that one cannot replace the other. In the case of the new Toyobaru, unless you try the two flavors one after the other, I doubt you’ll be able to tell them apart. Hell – after taking them two weeks apart, I’m not sure I can.
Don’t sweat the moral differences of this story. Just pick one, damn it.
Full disclosure: Subaru invited a group of journalists, including You Truly, to drive a fleet of BRZs in and around Lime Rock Park, one of my favorite tracks in the entire world. I can’t believe they still let serious race cars compete here. They put us in a lovely hotel on an idyllic property for two nights.
Test Conditions: A humid and cloudy but slightly cooler than average summer day – until the sun came out. Then it got really hot.
It’s the second generation of Subaru’s delightful, accessible two-door, rear-wheel drive sports car, and it starts at $28,000. It is also mostly similar to the Toyota GR86, thanks to some very minor stylistic nips and tucks, as well as some changes and tuning to the suspension and chassis components. The big upgrade for 2022 — a 2.4-liter, naturally aspirated flat-four with 228 horsepower and 184 lb-ft of torque — is significantly present no matter what badge is on the hood.
I was driving a gr86 two weeks ago, and I had only good things. If I copy/pasted a bit and changed some of the proper nouns, all those things would apply to BRZ as well. But this would greatly frustrate my college professors; Also, I think it would be more useful to part their hair and talk about some changes between them. So let’s get to it.
BRZ Vs. Gr 86: What’s Different
Keeping the design aside, the physical differences between the BRZ and GR86 mostly relate to the way their wheels are designed to interact with the road. According to Subaru, the BRZ’s front spring rate is 7 percent higher, while the rear spring rate is 11 percent lower than the GR 86. The BRZ has aluminum front knuckles in the interest of reducing unsprung weight, while the GR 86 swapped that part for steel in search of a weighty steering feel. At least, that’s based on what a Toyota engineer told me before driving that car.
The thickness of the front and rear stabilizer bars varies by a millimeter or less between the two models according to Subaru, although the spec sheet provided by Toyota in conjunction with the GR86 shows similar values quoted by Subaru. Subaru also says that the rear trailing link bushing on the BRZ is tougher than on the GR 86, which supposedly uses the carry-over part from the pre-Gen 86.
In terms of curb weight, the manual versions of the GR 86 are two to four pounds lighter than the BRZ. Margins go up for automatics, with the Subaru being 13 pounds heavier than Toyota’s AT trim.
Add adjustments to damping, electric power steering and engine mapping, and that’s a lot. If you put A gun to my head, I’m still struggling to explain how, if those modifications, have significantly different the way each car drives.
Part of me wants to say that the GR86 is a little more tail-happy, but it’s not like I couldn’t feel the BRZ slide out of Turns 1-3 in Lime Rock or the wicked-fun autocross. circuit in the field. I only had the opportunity to drive the BRZ in limited trim, which, like the top version of the GR86, features upgraded Michelin Pilot Sport 4 rubber. Despite the added grip, the punchy low-end torque of the new 2.4 was still making my coupe scream like a dog on the linoleum floor in second gear during autocross. This inevitably resulted in spin, especially as I became more comfortable with the car and liberal with the use of my right foot.
If I literally stack the BRZ and GR 86 together, will the behavioral discrepancies become more apparent? Perhaps. But the fact that I spent a silly fun time with both the new Toyobaru twins and very similar reasons essentially tells me that if you want one of these cars, it doesn’t matter which one you choose. Huh. Give preference to the one attached to the logo or front bumper which you like more; If you can’t get it, go to a rival dealer across the street and order one of those instead.
interior, security and everything else
On the road, the BRZ didn’t feel any more compliant than the GR 86 over the bumps and inconsistent road surfaces of upstate New York. Perhaps the BRZ’s steering wheel height was a bit low on the opening turn, but it wasn’t weak or accurate by any measure. The car has never tracked or driven around on the straights; Both felt equally sure and planted.
All my favorite qualities of a Toyota interior apply to Subaru as well. I found the fit and finish to be attractive and quite pleasant to the touch, though if you’re the kind of person who gets carried away with the noise some plastic makes when you scratch them, you might complain a bit. To which, I would ask why you are considering this car. I know apples to oranges, but it pales in comparison to the flamboyant, misfitting interior of my Fiesta ST – and this car was in the same price bracket when new.
The BRZ and GR 86 have similar seats, though the stitching and accents on the more sturdier, optional Alcantara ones are red in the Subaru and gray in the Toyota. (The gray is a bit overdone in my opinion, but I’m not liking.) The infotainment system, gauge cluster, and everything else is shared between the cars, right up to the features of Subaru’s iSight 3 Driver Assist suite . It includes features like adaptive cruise control, lane keep assist and automatic high beam, though you can only get many of those features on automatic cars. This is GR 86. also true about.
wooOK Toyota is still strangely silent about the GR86 pricing, Subaru is out in the open. Unfortunately, the naming convention for trim levels is as meaningless as in the old car, with the base BRZ being “Premium” and the upgrade being “Limited”. Toyota’s base GR 86 has no name, and its limited counterpart is called the Premium.
It’s a lot more messy than it needs to be, but the upshot is a standard BRZ with manuals will cost you $27,995 before destination. A limited manual, which includes nicer seats, grippier tires, an advanced audio system, and blind spot detection among other safety features, costs $29,595. The automatic Premium and Limited trims cost $30,495 and $32,495, respectively.
Subaru wants you to think that the modifications made to the BRZ’s dynamics were done to promote “stability” and “precision.” (Those are words the company used in its presentation materials, I assure you.) I’m going to explain, but I think Toyota would probably like you to think that the changes made to the visceral reaction and lively antics. in the interest of.
I don’t think one pair of ideals is inherently more righteous than the other. IGiven the modest ways each car embodies those qualities, the difference is minor. These are both wonderful little sports cars, and we are lucky to have them at a time when everything is getting big, expensive and soulless.
If you’ve experienced the original Toyobaras, you’ll appreciate the new engine for its increased responsiveness and reduced utility in range; You’ll probably also be happy with the punch-up interior and its more modern, technical features. And if you’ve never driven any of these cars, that’s okay – don’t make the same mistake twice if you can help it.